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Toronto Optimists on retreat (1960)

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Jun. 9, 2005

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If at Hamilton, tha '?' would have been Bill Ukas

Bill Ukas

Apr. 5, 2006

and that would make Colin, Brian Williams, Colin is behind Phil!

FR

Apr. 13, 2006

The order of the line is Clark, Prokop,Williams, Hedworth, Ukas, O'halloran - This would have been the case on anything past the Ontario's in early July - Prior to that the centre figure would have been Carl Clutchy - a very strong drummer. Up to July, the line used Ludwig mallots and the snares Ludwig sticks - After June the line switched to felt mallots and the snares to 'Swedish or Swiss marching or walking canes'. A heavier, thicker stick with a larger tip, possibly inverse.

Bill Ukas

Dec. 11, 2006

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